Does Rick Warren preach the gospel?

This is a YouTube presentation which reflects the gospel message of Rick Warren, and therefore the gospel emphasis for Saddleback Church and Purpose Driven initiatives. It covers the main points of what Warren gets across to the unsaved.

You have to get past the shirt and beard, and focus on the message, but check it out for yourself.


14 thoughts on “Does Rick Warren preach the gospel?

  1. Too hard to find, teddy. Can you locate it and post it? Or give a title?

    I take it you didn’t view Rick’s presentation.

  2. I think issue 85 is discussing church growth. The YouTube presentation I gave is the simple gospel outline Warren shares with the unsaved.

    The question I asked is whether Warren preaches an acceptable form of the gospel.

    Does he give the three core issues mentioned on a previous post – sin, Jesus, response? Yes, clearly.

    Does he mention grace? Yes.

    On the cicministry site in an article on the “Purpse Driven Life’, the writer claims Warren never articulates his take on the gospel.

    Well, it took me around five minutes to locate it on the Purpose Driven site, and another three to post it here.

    It is fascinating to me how critics make claims on the basis of one thing that’s produced as ‘evidence’, yet fail to produce the real evidence that counts, which was present all the time, if only they’d looked earnestly and honestly.

    Here it is.

  3. It does seem like a purpose-driven church is just another way of saying a market-driven church. It is a way of applying business concepts like mission statements and marketing, goal-directedness etc. to church. Just change the terminology, mission statement becomes purpose-statement, goal-directed becomes purpose-directed etc.

    And as in business, you can only manage what you can measure. Goals only have meaning when they are measurable. Mostly you cannot measure spirituality, the only thing you can measure is “decisions for Christ” or “bums on seats.”

    So the church would become just like a corporation, supplying whatever the public thinks it needs. But just like McDonalds it may not supply something that is always healthy or use its resources in the best manner for the public. In fact the goal-directed nature of the methodology pretty much guarantees that it will not.

    But these Franchise Christianity approaches are enormously popular with Pastors of small to medium-sized churches, who see them as a salvation of sorts.

  4. Article 85 needs to be read completely as it covers the whole premise of reaching the unchurched and why it’s not biblical and yes, it’s a long read

  5. I just listened to Rick’s presentation – thanks for posting it FL.

    I think its all there in Rick’s prayer at the end, although there are a couple of things that concern me a bit. Definitely people who pray that are admitting and saying sorry for their sins – which could be turning from sin – and are inviting Jesus into their life in order to follow Him. So that’s great. It’s also good to have that prayer posted here on this website. 🙂

    The things that concern me about it are just some phrases RW uses which seem a bit loaded. His use of the word ‘purpose’ all the time, and the admitting and saying sorry for sin – without necessarily understanding about turning from sin.

    There’s nothing wrong with saying I want to live for God’s purposes, not my own, but there is an implication that God’s purposes are the ones outlined in RW’s book, ‘The Purpose Driven Life’. Some of them might be. My point is that in this context, the word ‘purpose’ is loaded. The next logical step would then be to follow the purpose driven church, which may not be God’s purpose for you, and would be part of the marketing that wazza refers to. Don’t get me started on measurement – although that might be a great topic to post on soon – wazza?

    The other concern I have is that even though people are encouraged to admit they have sinned, and say sorry for their sins, do they understand that they are actually turning from their sins? In my experience, salvations that don’t count the cost, don’t necessarily last. Admitting and saying sorry is not necessarily turning from sin to the Lord, although it is a great first step. Just like a small child will admit and say sorry, to avoid punishment, but turn around and deliberately do the same thing again, since they weren’t really sorry, they were just trying to avoid pain.

    Anyway – these are concerns. I’m not saying RW is wrong. However, some of the critics may have a point that people who follow his methods would do well to take notice of – so that those who get ‘saved’ will last.

  6. There were a few errors in this.
    The most comical was the man who bought his “daughter” to Jesus where Jesus healed the man’s “daughter” because the man asked for help to believe that Jesus could heal.

  7. But the gospel message wasn’t there, really.
    I’m amazed he says that when he was younger he studied the major religions.
    Maybe he should study Christianity more.

    Christianity, unfortunately, is not about being a good person, but about having a relationship with Jesus Christ. Through this relationship, He will disciple you the way He wants you to be.

  8. “How Archaeology Killed Biblical History”

    That was a lot funnier than the last video you posted David. The funniest part was where Hector says in a by-the-way fashion that the NT is anti-Jewish….. after spending the entire time basically telling us the Jewish scriptures, their Torah, their prophets and scribes, their history, traditions and culture are all lies that they just made up or stole from others. The passover, that they celebrate to this day has no basis, a historical fallacy, there was no exodus, their patriarchs never existed and the history of their kingdom and kings are lies and fairytales that should be ridiculed! Then he says the NT is anti-jewish! WTF? LOL!

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