Christian City Church Aint A Church!

It’s a GYM! And it will be a place where the insecure can go to feel even more insecure about themselves! Where mirrors will condemn those that will never be good enough and will lie to those that believe that they are good.

I have heard a few times that C3OF were looking at establishing a C3 gym. They still have their eyes set on making one. Money worth spent from tithes I say!

But I didn’t know they were already happening elsewhere in the world.

They’re more into becoming a worldly city than I thought. If this is the way they want to go, they will be ‘A city on the pill’, to look sexually appealing faster.  Here’s a bit about them:

About C3 Fitness

C3 Fitness provides a unique fitness experience. We are not “just a gym.” We do not compete with the commercialized facilities where membership is the status quo. Instead, we offer a community-based environment that promises education and support while helping members reach personal goals.

Our staff is comprised of friendly, personable people who want to help you live “Your Best Life.” We proudly attach ourselves to The C3 Church where Christianity is real and healthy living is a valued principle.

Our facility is state-of-the art. We promise to meet all of your fitness needs. From squad training to personal training, group fitness classes to boot camp, C3 Fitness offers accountability and variety at all levels. Locker rooms and shower amenities are available, along with online exercise and nutrition tracking to help keep you motivated. We have it all. And did we mention that your kids can get fit here too? Our afternoon “FitKid” program offers children ages 6-13 the opportunity to leave the television and Nintendo DS behind and have a workout of their own.

C3 Fitness is designed for your whole family. No matter what your age, shape, or size, we believe it’s never too late to begin living a healthy lifestyle. Come in for a free 7 day pass and experience C3 Fitness for your self. You’ll love it here.

Membership Options
Full Membership
Full membership at C3 Fitness includes access to all fitness equipment including Life Fitness circuit, free weights, cardio and core areas. C3 Fitness provides a variety of group exercise classes and C3 Spin classes. Showers and locker room facilities area available for member use. Full membership also gives members access to our on-line fitness management program. Inside this system, members are able to educate themselves on general health concerns, track diet and exercise, schedule appointments and view class schedules from home. This web-driven program is designed to help set and obtain fitness goals.

Full Membership Costs
Initiation: $25
Monthly Dues: $25

Squad Membership
Squad membership includes all of the services available with full membership. Additionally, squad members receive 8 credits for small group workouts each month. A “squad” is a group of 2 to 8 people who work out with a personal trainer at the same time. Squad classes are posted on-line, and sign-up is required. This is an excellent option for someone seeking accountability or wanting to go to the next level while working out with others.

Squad Membership Costs

Initiation: $25
Monthly Dues: $45

Personal Training
Personal training is available to all members of C3 Fitness. Trainers can help set fitness goals while giving members the tools and motivation to accomplish them. All of our trainers are certified through nationally recognized accrediting agencies. To sign up for personal trainers, please come by the personal training desk in the atrium.

Personal Training Costs
$60 for 2 X 30 Minute sessions per week.
$55 for 2 X 30 Minute sessions per week 4 week commitment.
$50 for 1 time session

Monday – Thursday 5:30a.m. – 10:00p.m.
Friday 5:30 a.m. – 8:00 p.m.
Saturday 8:00a.m. – 5:00 p.m.
Sunday 11:00 a.m. – 5:00 p.m.

Childcare Hours
Monday – Friday 8:00 a.m. – 1:00 p.m. & 3:30 p.m. – 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 8:00 a.m. – 1:00 p.m.
Sunday 11:00 a.m. – 3:00 p.m.

Child Care Services
Children ages eight weeks through twelve years may be dropped off in our on-site childcare room for a maximum of two hours at a time. Childcare hours are: Monday-Friday 8:00 A.M.-1:00 A.M. and 3:30-7:30 P.M., Saturday 8:00 A.M.-1:00 P.M., and Sunday 11:00 A.M.-3:00 P.M. Regulations regarding diapering, feeding, etc. are available upon request.

Body Composition Testing
Ranging from skin-fold to BIA testing, all forms of body composition testing are available upon request. Tests are performed by certified personal trainers and come standard with personal training packages.

Spin Classes

Fitness Evaluations
Fitness evaluations are part of the initial personal training assessment. These include assessment of all major physical fitness components including cardiovascular, muscular strength, muscular endurance, body composition, and flexibility. In addition, a certified personal trainer will provide an exercise prescription geared to meet your goals and needs.

FITKIDS: kids fitness training
Children ages six to twelve have to the opportunity to join our after-school fitness program. This program meets three to four times a week and includes everything from small group games to gymnastics to Wii Fitness. Taught by engaging kid-friendly instructors, FITKIDS will ensure your child develops an active lifestyle.

Personal Training
Experienced certified personal trainers are available for one-on-one and small group sessions. These is an additional charge for these services. For more information or rates, contact any of our staff members.

Squad Memberships
Use of Locker Rooms and Showers
All members may enjoy the use of our showering and locker facilities. While soap and shampoo are provided, please bring your own towel and lock.

Group Classes
A variety of exercise classes are available in our group exercise room located on the second floor. Please visit the website homepage for class listings and schedules. All classes are taught by certified instructors.

Guest Pass

A free 7 day guest pass is available for new guests who are local residents and at least 18 years of age. The guest must present a valid drivers license and allow time for a tour of the facility. Guests who do not qualify for a free 7 day trial pass can visit the facility for a $5.00 fee per visit.

C3 Etiquette
To ensure the best atmosphere and workout for all of our members, please adhere to the following guidelines:
• Please wipe off equipment after use
• No cell phone use during classes or on gym floor
• Please return weights to racks
• Please do not drop weights
• Be courteous of others waiting for equipment


So those led by their appearance in mirrors, (admiring their beauty), truly will be the sons and daughters of God on stage, (one day). In the end, all shall see it’s all about building the temple! A trip to Vanity Fair anyone?

38 thoughts on “Christian City Church Aint A Church!

  1. Firstly, this is in the US, not in Australia, so this might be a reflection of US culture rather than the C3 we know. Though presentation is valued at C3 in the church environment, partly for attracting people. Other times, it is regarded as being respectful to God to make that effort on a Sunday. (Is this true, do you think?)

    Secondly – I go to the gym! Contrary to popular belief, gyms are not necessarily full of people admiring themselves in mirrors. Mirrors are there so that you can see if you doing the exercises correctly or not. Sometimes, you’d really prefer not to see yourself in the mirror!

    In the case of this business, it could be seen as encouraging church members to get the right ‘look’ that will attract people to the church. On the other hand, it could just see itself as offering a service to church members who’d like to work out in a Christian environment. Or both.

    We have to be careful not to be legalistic about this. Whether its a good or bad thing really depends on the hearts of the people involved and their community. Maybe they are addressing a huge obesity problem.

    I’m not in favour of churches appearing to teach that its important to look good, since obviously scripture doesn’t teach that. Although Esther’s looks were used by God to help her people, and good looks can be a gift from God. We don’t want to encourage a culture where people are valued or pilloried because of their looks, and that’s hard in today’s society.

    If I was the local church, I’d be concerned about that aspect of the direct, intentional association with a gym. Perhaps instead of advertising with a picture of a beautiful woman, it might be more helpful in a church context to have a picture of some average people enjoying themselves working out, and talking about the health benefits.

    My gym, which is just your average ‘secular’ gym, has ads showing ordinary people, including physically impaired people, achieving very positive results for their health and well being. They know that this motivates and encourages people.

    I’m not sure that a business needs to be known as a ‘Christian’ business either – people are Christian, not businesses. I worked for one once; it was the worst work environment I’d ever been in, unfortunately, and put a lot of the non-Christians right off Christianity.

    Why can we as Christian’s not regard all things as part of our Christian life, wherever we are, rather than fencing off an environment as ‘Christian’? Unless perhaps people are being persecuted. It shuts us off from the world; we wait for people to come in and visit us; whereas in the normal course of life, we form relationships with people from a variety of backgrounds, some of whom may be blessed in some way from God working through us at times because we are actually out there. Be salt and light in the world, rather than cloistered.

  2. Also – my first reaction to this, before I realised it was in the US, and thought it was local in Sydney, was that I might try it out. 🙂 Their child minding hours are better than my gyms, and their fees were cheaper, when I thought they were Aussie dollars.

  3. The other thing I’ve found, is that there are a lot of people at gyms struggling with weight issues, and people tend to be supportive of one another, and encourage eachother in their goals. You find a lot of mums meet down there, and swap supportive child rearing stories as well. There is actually more mutual encouragement there than in many environments. If we all did that in our Christian walks, it would be fantastic.

  4. Sorry for all the posts! Just to sum up, I (as a gym going Christian), see nothing wrong with Christians going to the gym. The issue is in the possible implications of a gym being associated with a church, and the potential to value looks and presentation more highly than we ought. I think a gym could be associated with a church, but the message and marketing need to be undertaken with care not to teach a false message. It’s better if it works as a service to a local area.

    Weren’t YMCA’s gyms?

  5. Onya RP.

    The reason for a gym might be to build the bodfy(image) beautiful, or it might simply be because many of us (me) lead unhealthy lifestyles sitting in front of the computer too much, eating food I know is bad for me, and carry too much weight than is good for me and it’s a place where maybe some of that can be dealt with.

    I don’t currently go to a gym, but have done when one was provded at work and felt much better for it.

    Have no interest in being a musclebound self admirer.

    My only comment would be wouldn’t it be good if the training put in at the gym was matched or bettered by that put into (and I’m not saying it isn’t) knowing God and His word.

    A gym is like many things – can equally be used for good and evil!

  6. I don’t have a problem with gyms or Christians going to one – I take issue with the mega-church community that wants to provide (probably with the best intentions) the total “community” resources including hair salons by the way. We are meant to go “out” into the world. Is this classic “bait and switch”?

    This is Dean Sweetman’s (an Australian) church in Atlanta – I sat behind him a few years ago as he excitedly went on about having a hair salon. There seems more excitement about these sort of projects that preaching the gospel. If the church runs with this, as an outreach, will the congregation “share” the equipment :). Depending on how big the gym is, will there be room for the unsaved, and would they even want to come?

    There an opportunity in this for young mothers, which is probably the best form of outreach as new mums want to get back their pre-baby bodies. However with the evergowing “narcissistic attitude” of power pumped pastors, who, following their leader, are taking up a lot of space in gyms.

    I’m finding it hard to explain my reactions to this, apart from an awful feeling of “worldliness” coming into the church. Can you see this going down well in Indonesia, Samoa, China?

    Specks – “city on a pill”, that made me cringe but wow, it could be an interesting analogy.

  7. One thing I constantly struggle with is getting out of my Christian “comfort zone”. I would happily settle into a Christian gym, cafe, bookshop, hairsalon etc etc. Happily just entertain my Christian friends.

    So that makes the whole C3fitness a problem for me.

    By the way, if one follows any tweeters on C3, their favourite word is no longer “awesome”, it’s “pumped”!
    Very appropriate!

  8. Yup, totally agree that it is unnecessary for churches to provide total ‘community’ resources.

    (I was amused by your comments re Dean Sweetman, Teddy. He was always _very_ enthusiastic but I remember that enthusiasm being for evangelism. Maybe he sees these businesses as evangelism?)

    Whatever happened to us going out into the community, rather than the other way around? Plus it competes with other community businesses already providing the same services, potentially drawing church members away from those existing places. Makes church into more of a club than it already is. Now if church _is_ a club – then I would have no issue. Perhaps a question is, is church meant to be a club?


    Is it morally OK to use the church as a marketing platform?

    Amway was competing with CCC homegroups on Wednesday nights once, I recall, and that didn’t go down too well. The megachurch environment was a brilliant marketing opportunity for a network driven business.


    Is there any conflict with the purpose of a church if the presence of its congregation becomes a part of a church related business plan?

    When is a service a business, and when does that become a problem?


    I agree with MN – the gym itself can equally be used for good and evil.

  9. ‘Pumped’ – really! PP always used to say ‘awesome’. Has he changed, or is it the new guard taking over?

  10. I know what you mean about that ‘settling in’, Teddy. Yes, I do think its an issue, pleasant as it is. If churches encourage it, as they may do more often if it benefits their bank account, its kind of in conflict with their other goal of encouraging their members to invite unsaved friends along. Soon their members will have no ‘unsaved friends’!

  11. Easy to be one dimensional about these things which almost comes about because of the association with C3.

    The local baptist church started as a church planting with a school. As such the school and church has grown up together.

    The church has a couple of hundred come along on a good Sunday, and the school (where the church meets) now has nearing 1500 students.

    The school is run as a secular school but is staffed by Christians with a heavy focus on pastoral care.

    The school and the church are now sharing and contributing to facilities for use by church, school and community with coffee shop, child care etc.

    Now according to some comments above this should probably be pulled down.

    The school is actually very well thought of locally and has produced good academic results.

    Some of the kids have come to the church and are contributing to the youth ministry and growing into the future leaders – very serious about their faith and sharing it.

    etc etc

    As for competing with community business?

    Business is business….so?

    If they are competing being known as a Christian business they’ve just made it harder for themselves, not easier – but then this is a church/school/community centre which is at the get go “Christian” – it is not a builder, or car yard.

    In terms of whether this is right or wrong, by their fruit shall you know them.

    Perhaps it is time to stop nitpicking the format and look at the fruit….

    Personally I think there are bigger issues to fry.

  12. Whe I comment about business, I’m not talking about the school (which has to be run on business lines to an extent anyway) or church.

    The other stuff yes.

    But I’d have to say there isn’t an emphasis on running the other stuff just for the sake of making money.

  13. Yes, well I don’t want to write off all church related businesses; there are no doubt some very good ones. I don’t really think of a school along those lines. Probably each case is different.

  14. If this is a new business venture or whatever do the regular tithers get to decided or vote where their money is going?

    I think it was St Paul who said being “healthy” is good but being spiritually fit is much better.

  15. Josh Kelsey

    “Pumped for this week ahead. I know God is moving in our community and it is so exciting to be a part of it.”
    about 5 hours ago from TwitterBerry

  16. From what the community tells me they think c3 is a religious cult but hey, gotta stay positive I guess. I feel sorry for Josh as he seems a very nice genuine guy

  17. He’s a great guy – just making an observation about the new word de jour “pumped”. Is it in the bible?

    English to Hebrew translation =

    adjective: שָׁאוּב

  18. “…and the Lord said, “Peter, art thou pumped for the awesome journey?” Peter replied, “I’m pumped Lord, and everything is awesome… er ….. and pumped … er… awesomely pumped.” Then all the multitude lifted their voices in one accord saying, “we’re pumped”. Then the Lord said, “turn to the person next to you and say, “I’m pumped”, and so they did…awkwardly. Then when the multitudes were thoroughly pumped the disciples quickly and brazenly took up a collection… 🙂

  19. That is sooooo funny!

    I wonder what the whole Bible would be like, translated like that, and always with a positive spin?

  20. PP tweets….. – Feeling so pumped for Europe. The place is starting to burn!
    8:11 AM Sep 30th from TwitPic

    Never was a truer word spoken. Unfortunately, it’s the fires of Judgment on the church.

    However, I see no problem with “c3fitness” as long as the goal is to brake even.

    The only concern is that we don’t move to create christian ghettos, where only Christians go and all other people can ignore us. Besides, if God did not spare His Chosen people the Jews, He will not spare us either. (The Jews are still God’s Chosen People … “it is only by Grace we have been grafted in” says Paul)

    Remember Warsaw. We will not be safe in a Christian Ghetto.

    I am starting to feel like Jeremiah. 😦


  21. Only in America 😦

    I was getting my hopes up, $27 a month is 20 less than I pay now.

    Not to worry its probably a wussy gym anyway.

  22. Lets see.
    The majority of the CCCOF Highschool students go to C3.
    A vast number of graduates often go to CCCOF too.

    The C3 movement, from observation of various different ones around Australia and overseas, emphasise in creating a young, relevant and vibrant atmosphere.

    They heavily target the youth. It is promoting like crazy ‘your best life now’. Half the youth from CCCOF look like models anyways yet suffer from personal insecurities.

    Obviously it aint Christian or churchy unless it is near the church, (because Jesus aint preached). But it is to be promoted with the cause ‘for church’ for it is under the banner of C3.

    So what’s it offering that a regular gym aint?
    It’s quite possible that they are promoting a ‘safe environment’. That could be true, but that has often been an excuse for a church to get what they want.

    I know for a fact that it has been discussed at CCCOF for them to get a gym. I simply shudder at the thought. Guys will be popping steroid pills and sculling protein shakes faster to keep their muscle tones and looks up to date.

    I am not to afraid to admit that I am cynical a bit about this. CCC do carry a hidden strain of Dominion theology, which is why they have an arts college. SO what are they hoping to achieve with gyms?

    I go to a local gym, and have observed it’s swing to be a bit of a New Age kind of setting. All the more reason for me to stick to that gym, rather then go to gym that might make me more popular with my Christian friends.

    … I’d also be curious to know if the staff would be paid, or if it’s ‘volunteer’.

  23. It is our friend, the artist formerly known as FaceL1ft

    Specks, have you got that fly-swat?

    Struck down with heaven’s fire
    Hitting an all time low.

  24. “…the growing global army of Gâche aficionados …” – FL

    Is this evidence of a dominionist agenda?

    It won’t be allowed on the menu at the C3 gym cafe, that’s for sure.

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