C3 Church Oxford Falls Leaders Meeting May 02 2010 with Phil Pringle
At 36:20 Phil Pringle says the following:
“Sylvia Jarry! My GOD! I heard her take- I was at Prime the other night with Kris. We did a little interview and here’s Sylvia giving the offering. My Lord! She just slapped everybody around the face. That must have been a huge offering that night. I don’t know what came in but uh… She just got up there and made no bones about it. Slap! Slap! Slap! And uh… I even gave something! Amen! You gotta be good to get me to give something. (Phil laughs) Not really.”
This is what Phil Pringle said 38 minutes in:
“Under number eight: Passionate Spirituality. Passionate Spirituality. This is measured in tithing. There are several measurements they give for these. It’s unusual the measurements that they actually put on – on these ah – how they – how they said “We can tell if a church is spiritually passionate not by the fact they go ‘Oooooooo!’ (Phil imitates a Holy Ghost shaker) like this. But by how much they actually give.” Ok?
Now as leaders, let me tell you this: you got no chance of getting your people to be tithers and blessed and prospering if you’re not. And it’s the same with the building fund and everywhere else. And I make no apologies in this meeting for saying, before the Lord: that you and I are leading a group of people and we have got a responsibility to show them the way and be able to speak without any compromise in our conviction at all. That ‘Yes!’, we gotta bring that tithe into the house of God because that guarantees us an open window over our church life and over our movement. … (fumbles with his words)
I came across a leader who I knew who’d – you know – sort of looked like doing the right thing with giving to – building the building. But you know – we can check those records actually. In America you can check everybody’s tithing records. And Paul would base his – when he was in Los Angeles – you could base your pastoring on that couldn’t you, really. Just check it all out and weekly go around and see them and say ‘things aren’t working out for you?’.
‘Yeah! How did you know?’
‘Oh! You know…’ (laughs)
And uh… we can’t do that here. But what we can do is check is look on the ‘Rise and Build’ records and that tells us where, you know, the passionate spirituality (if you like) of our people and that’s an indicator. It’s not the amount, it’s just the sacrifice and the heart to be involved is actually there. And uh…
You know I’m talking like this because we’re a mature crowd here aren’t we? We can cope with this. And if it’s a little challenging, that’s great. Amen. We gotta smile when a thing challenges us saying ‘Yeah! This is good for me! It’s going to move me on ‘n get me up on the feet’. And so … when we did, I just asked Wayne, (cos I don’t actually go through those records and check them), I just said to Wayne ‘Did that guy umm… was he involved?’. And he came back with a number that was just – you know – (Phil shows he’s upset) that just boggled my mind, how that over such a long time that was it.
And it revealed a lot to me. It just told me everything as to why his situation was like it was.”
If for some reason this video is taken down, I managed to get a copy from HS’s work. Thanks HS.
They were also the one who put the link up of Dave Sumrall’s C3 video.